Walk with Breezy Nowlan: Creating Space for Belonging

Episode Summary: What if the path to purpose begins with a simple question: What do you love to do?

When Breezy Nowlan launched Taste Recovery, she believed she had found her purpose—helping people in recovery navigate the often-complicated world of sober living.

But a few years later, after a difficult season in her personal life, she found herself asking a deeper question: What was still missing?

The answer came through a conversation with her father and a simple question that changed everything: What do you love to do?

That question eventually led to Camp Sober Fest—an outdoor recovery experience built around connection, growth, adventure, and belonging.

In this episode, Breezy shares the story behind Taste Recovery, the inspiration for Camp Sober Fest, and the journey that helped her discover a deeper sense of purpose along the way.

SHOW NOTES

Recovery is often framed as an individual journey. But what if healing is also about community? About finding places where people feel welcomed, encouraged, and connected?

In this conversation, I sit down with Breezy Nowlan, founder of Taste Recovery and Camp Sober Fest, to explore how her own recovery experience led her to create spaces designed around belonging.

Breezy shares her early experiences with sober living, the inspiration behind Taste Recovery, and the simple question from her father that shifted the direction of her work: What do you love to do? That question eventually led her outdoors and inspired Camp Sober Fest—an experience that brings people together through adventure, play, shared challenges, and recovery community.

We talk about what happens when people step outside their comfort zones, why supportive environments matter, and how meaningful connection can change the trajectory of a life.

This conversation is a reminder that sometimes the most important thing we build is not a program or a platform—but a place where people feel they belong.

Key Themes

• Purpose as an evolving journey

• Recovery beyond treatment

• The power of community and belonging

• Following what feels missing

• Nature as a catalyst for connection

• Growth through discomfort and new experiences

• Building spaces where people can thrive

Key Takeaways

• Purpose often reveals itself through experience rather than planning.

• Sometimes the next chapter begins when we acknowledge something is missing.

• Recovery is strengthened through meaningful relationships and community.

• Supportive environments can help people move through fear and discover new possibilities.

• Growth happens when we allow ourselves to have experiences that feel uncomfortable.

• Creating opportunities for belonging can transform lives—including our own.

“The times where I've been the happiest and the most free, I'm outside.”

Reflection Prompt

What do you love to do?

As you think about the moments when you feel most alive, most energized, or most yourself, what patterns do you notice? What might those experiences be trying to tell you about the next step in your own journey?

Connect with Breezy

Breezy Nowlan is the founder of Taste Recovery, a platform that helps individuals and families find sober living and recovery resources, and the creator of Camp Sober Fest, an outdoor recovery experience centered on community, growth, and belonging.

Website:https://www.tasterecovery.com

Camp Soberfest:https://www.campsoberfest.com

Instagram: @taste.recovery

Resources Mentioned

The Phoenix: A nonprofit organization offering free sober activities and community experiences for people in recovery.

https://thephoenix.org

Adventure Recovery: Outdoor adventure experiences designed to support recovery and personal growth.

https://adventurerecovery.com

Prefer to read? The full transcript is below.

• Full Transcript

  Walk with Breezy Nowlan: Creating Space for Belonging

  Susan:
  All right. Well, hi, Breezy. How are you today?

  Breezy:
  I'm doing wonderful, thank you. How are you?

  Susan:
  I am great. I'm excited about this conversation. This is one of those cases where the algorithm did a good thing, because I was on Instagram and I follow a wide variety of nature-based organizations. Something about the work you do connected to that, given what we're going to talk about today.

  I love that you checked your Instagram messages, which I think is not something everybody does, and you replied. So thank you.

  I'm excited to talk with you today. Let's jump in and lay the groundwork for where we're going. Everybody knows we're going to talk about nature and wellbeing in some way, shape, or form—that's why they're here.

  Start by giving us your background. Let's go with the origin story of Breezy and the work you do with Taste Recovery. You can talk about the big thing. Today we're, of course, going to talk about camp mostly, but talk about the big thing too if you want.

  Breezy:
  Yeah, absolutely.

  I got sober when I was 24 years old, so a little over 10 years ago. I ended up in a sober living house after treatment in Florida. I don't know if listeners are familiar with sober living.

  Susan:
  They may not be, so you can share a little bit more.

  Breezy:
  Cool.

  Essentially, I was in a 90-day program. I dropped down to start trying to figure out how to live life in the outside world and not be so confined in a very safe environment. So I ended up going to a sober living, and the sober living was not all that safe after all.

  This was back in 2015 when it was kind of at the height of its chaos, this specific industry. The sober living owner was a male who lived in a different state, and he would come down and be kind of creepy with us women.

  It was my first time ever actually trying to get sober. I had been to treatment before, but I didn't change anything. I just went back to my apartment and tried to white-knuckle it. Eventually, I started drinking again.

  So I ended up in this sober living, not really knowing what to expect. I have a brother who had been through sober livings before, and I knew there were shady people who liked to take advantage of people. I just wasn't sure that was happening.

  I ended up becoming almost like the whistleblower in the sober living. I was trying to get back to a safe zone. I told the owner that our house manager was getting loaded, and he didn't believe me. Then I ended up being the one who got kicked out.

  I was really resentful at the sober living, at the house manager, at the owner, at my roommate—everything felt so unfair. At that moment, I was really focused on justice.

  I ended up going back home to California and moving into a different sober living. I got what we call a "get well job" in a fashion store, and I really enjoyed it. I thought maybe this was something I would want to do.

  My whole life felt like everyone else was given this playbook for what they were supposed to do with their lives. From a very early age they would say, "I want to be an athlete," or "I want to be a doctor," or whatever it may be.

  My whole life I was like, "I have no idea what I want to be." I didn't understand how people just knew that.

  So I was at this store and I applied to the Fashion Institute of Design and Merchandising, FIDM. I ended up getting in and started going to school to do something in fashion.

  While I was there, I ended up taking a lot of business classes. I had this one teacher who was incredible, and we had to do a full portfolio on a business idea.

  That's where I started thinking about my experience in sober living and asking, "How do I make it better?"

  Really, it was based off that resentment. I wanted justice. I wanted that sober living exposed. I wanted everyone to know he was a terrible person. All the wrong reasons to start a business.

  But I started it anyway, and very quickly people really resonated with the idea. I wasn't sure if it was a good idea or not.

  I ended up finishing school and then starting the business. It's called Taste Recovery. It's a website and an app. At the beginning, it simply listed sober living homes throughout the country.

  Within that first year—I launched it in 2020 in the middle of COVID.

  Susan:
  Oh boy.

  Breezy:
  Yeah.

  Then 2021 rolls around. We're all trying to get back to meetings and being around people again after all the isolation we experienced.

  Then 2022 happens. I was in a relationship with an addict who ended up relapsing, and he was shooting fentanyl in my house.

  I tried to kick him out. He wouldn't leave, so I ended up staying with my mom for two months.

  I called my dad. My parents aren't together, and I remember saying, "I am so lost. I don't want to be sitting at home working on Taste Recovery by myself anymore. I'm really struggling."

  And he said, "Well, what do you love to do?"

  I said, "Well, I love to be outside."

  And he said, "Okay. What can you do outside?"

  I realized that not only did I love being outside, but I really needed friends. That was the big thing. I wanted a community.

  My ex and I had played on a sober softball team that we started the year before. After I talked to my dad, one of my friends and I went to Whole Foods, sat down, and created a vision board for what this thing could look like.

  I put down a whole bunch of words and pictures, and what really resonated was community, being outside, and recovery.

  I ended up being very ambitious and thought, "Okay, I'm going to start looking up camps."

  I found one and asked, "When do you have availability?"

  They said, "In two months."

  I said, "Okay, great," and booked it right then and there, thinking, "For sure I'll sell this thing out. Everyone wants this."

  That was not the case.

  Susan:
  No.

  Breezy:
  No, it was not.

  There's so much fear and anxiety involved with getting uncomfortable and doing something new. I needed it, but a lot of people don't necessarily feel they need to grow or change.

  I really wanted to grow. I wanted to change. I wanted to keep evolving.

  Because I had Taste Recovery and this sober living platform, I was in contact with a lot of sober living homes. I reached out and let them know we were having this event.

  Thankfully, we got a lot of sober livings to sign up because they realized how important it was for their communities to do something like this.

  We had 130 people attend our very first event.

  And we just had our fifth one in Texas, where we had around 155 people.

  So that's really the origin story—how it all got started.

  I'm drinking from my Camp Soberfest mug right now.

  Susan:
  Nice.

  Breezy:
  I love it.

  It has transformed my life, as well as so many other people's lives.

  And like you said, there's so much magic in being outside and being in nature.
  Susan:
  Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh, I love this story.

  Thank you for sharing and for being fully honest and vulnerable. I think for folks who are listening, if we stopped here, they would already get so much out of what you shared because we just don't talk enough about the world you described. A lot of people don't have perspective on it.

  So I really appreciate you sharing that.

  Before we move into the camp piece, can you help listeners understand what sober living is and really what the Taste Recovery platform does? It sounds like it's a great place to go find a place if you want to live with others who are exploring sober living, but can you add more to that?

  Breezy:
  Yeah, absolutely.

  I've done a lot of podcasts, but they're always in the recovery field, so I always assume people know. I'm really grateful that you asked.

  Essentially, if you're addicted to drugs or alcohol, the typical path—if you're seeking treatment—is that you go to a residential treatment program where they will detox you. Sometimes you'll go to a separate detox facility first, depending on insurance, payment options, and what you can afford.

  Then there's the residential side where you're actually living in the program. They're providing your meals, your bed, and everything else. There are gender-specific treatment programs, co-ed programs, and they're located all throughout the country.

  A lot of them also address dual diagnosis, whether you're dealing with mental health challenges in addition to addiction or co-occurring issues such as sex addiction, food addiction, love addiction, and many others. There are so many different forms of addiction.

  After residential treatment, the next step is often moving into a sober living home.

  In a sober living home, there's usually a house manager who has over a year of sobriety. They typically aren't the owner of the house. They're often someone who previously lived there and wants to be of service, or perhaps still needs the financial support. Usually, house managers receive free rent in exchange for helping manage the home.

  Their role is to help support the people living there.

  Sober living homes tend to be gender-specific. You usually share a room with at least one other person, sometimes more.

  While you're living there, you have daily responsibilities. You make your bed every day. You have assigned chores. There's often something we call a "double scrub," usually on Sundays, where everyone has a specific cleaning responsibility. Everyone is expected to be an active participant in the household.

  Residents are also drug tested. You may have to provide urine samples and take breathalyzer tests when you come home. There are rules around overnight passes and accountability.

  The beautiful thing is that you can stay for as long as you need, as long as you're doing well.

  Often, while living in sober housing, you'll step down into PHP, which stands for Partial Hospitalization Program. That's typically several hours a day of structured programming, but now you're starting to get more autonomy. You may have access to your car and more independence while still receiving treatment.

  There are group sessions, therapy, and other supports.

  After PHP, many people move into IOP, which is Intensive Outpatient Programming. That's usually fewer hours and fewer days each week.

  Then there are other levels of outpatient care. A lot of it depends on what your insurance covers and what resources are available.

  But sober living itself is incredible.

  You meet people who are just like you and are trying to stay sober just like you.

  For me personally, I needed to be around other sober people because I knew if I immediately went back to my old life and my old friends, I would start drinking again.

  It really helps you build new friendships and surround yourself with people who support the life you're trying to create instead of pulling you back toward addiction.

  Susan:
  I love that.

  Again, it's a world that many people don't know much about unless they've had some connection to it. There is so much happening in communities that we simply don't see.

  I appreciate you sharing that perspective because I think there are a lot of people who don't understand what the support system actually looks like for someone who wants to get sober.

  So let's talk about Camp Soberfest.

  I think Texas was probably what showed up in my Instagram feed.

  Were you always an outdoor person? When your dad asked what you loved to do and you immediately said, "I want to be outside," did that come naturally? How did that connection to being outdoors become the thing that eventually led to Camp Soberfest?

  Breezy:
  So I grew up in Palm Desert, California, where summers are about 120 degrees.

  You're either stuck inside or you're at the pool.

  Thankfully, we spent a lot of time at the pool.

  I also think that what was normal when I was growing up isn't necessarily the norm anymore. Kids today are often glued to devices and spending more time indoors.

  My siblings and I were outside all the time. We were swimming almost every day. I played sports. I was really into horseback riding.

  But where my deeper love of the outdoors came from was our annual family reunions.

  Every year when we were little, my family would go to Wyoming and spend time at a dude ranch.

  We got to ride horses, go hiking, swim, fish—all of those things.

  Coming from the desert, it felt like a completely different world.

  I looked forward to it all year long.

  There were lots of other families there too, so you'd meet people from all over the country and connect with them. It was fun and adventurous and memorable.

  I think that's where camp really originated for me. That love of that environment is deeply ingrained in me.

  Then I started drinking.

  And I lost all of it.

  I lost my love of being outside. I stopped playing softball. I stopped doing the things I loved.

  Alcohol became the most important thing.

  When I finally got sober again, one of my roommates from sober living and I would go to the beach every day and play volleyball.

  Suddenly it was like, wow, I can't believe I was missing this.

  Being outside became a huge part of my recovery.

  Even at my treatment center, we had a big chunk of free time every day—two or three hours—and they always encouraged us to go outside.

  We'd play volleyball, basketball, or something active.

  It reminded me of who I was before alcohol.

  Then I moved to Los Angeles to attend FIDM, and I became isolated again.

  I was surrounded by buildings. There were very few trees. I felt suffocated by the city.

  I joined a hiking group on Facebook and met a woman there. She wasn't sober—just a normal person—but we both loved the outdoors.

  We started hiking together.

  And I realized how much I loved it.

  There was something so peaceful about it.

  It got me outside the heaviness I felt living in downtown Los Angeles and reminded me that there was still so much beauty in the world.

  So when I found myself in that dark place years later and my dad asked what I loved to do, the answer came pretty quickly.

  The times I've been happiest and felt the most free, I've been outside.

  I've been moving my body.

  The sun has been on my face.

  I've been in water—whether it's a lake, the ocean, or standing near a waterfall.

  Those are the moments that stick with me.

  Those are the moments that have healed me.

  So in a lot of ways it felt like a no-brainer.

  That's really what I wanted to do.

  And I think a lot of people resonate with that when they see Camp Soberfest.
  
  Susan:
  Yeah, I just make up a story based on my own experience of what you've shared—the difference between being in a home and not feeling connected to the outdoors versus being in downtown LA and a city environment versus being outside.

  Twice today I walked outside just because I needed to be outside and breathe. It's subtle and sometimes hard to explain, but we know from the research that we've talked about on the podcast before that there is plenty of data demonstrating why it makes such a difference. It's good for us in so many ways.

  So I'm curious what happens at camp. I'm a camper. I run retreats and help support retreats that happen in outdoor environments, so I don't want to cloud it with my own stories. But I also know there are people who have never had the opportunity to be outdoors at an adult camp. Maybe they went as a kid if they were lucky, and many people never got to do that.

  So what happens at Camp Soberfest? What's the agenda?

  Breezy:
  That was something that really stuck with me as well. I did go to a Christian summer camp when I was in fourth grade, and I never went back, but it stuck with me. It was just the best time ever.

  Essentially, what people would expect at Camp Soberfest—Texas was a little different because we had so many people flying in from out of state.

  We had a bus pick people up at the airport, and they immediately got to connect with other people in recovery. They had about an hour-and-a-half bus ride where they were singing, dancing, talking, and getting to know each other.

  Then they get to camp, check in, find their cabins and bunkmates, and meet everyone.

  After that, everyone comes back into the lodge and we do an orientation.

  Then we usually do some form of icebreaker where we separate everyone into teams.

  We have camp counselors assigned to each team, and they help people dive in and get to know one another because camp can feel very overwhelming at first. You show up and there are 155 people you don't know.

  The teams are a really good way of making it feel smaller and more intimate. At least you have a group of people you can count on if you start feeling overwhelmed.

  After the icebreaker, this year we had a big honky-tonk dance because it was Texas and we felt like we had to do something very Texas.

  Then we usually stay up way too late playing games.

  The next morning we wake up early. Everything is optional, of course, but people can choose between yoga or a recovery meeting before breakfast.

  After breakfast, we break into our teams again. The camp counselors lead little icebreakers and activities so everyone can continue getting to know one another.

  Then the YMCA staff takes over.

  People go to archery, horseback riding, zip lining, the high ropes course, the shooting range, axe throwing—this camp had literally everything you could imagine. It was really, really fun.

  Then everyone comes back for lunch before returning to their activity groups for the afternoon.

  After dinner, we always have a speaker meeting.

  That's where someone with substantial sobriety—usually someone with more than ten years sober, or someone who simply has a powerful recovery message—shares their experience.

  One of the really cool things about our camps is that a lot of people show up sober but have never participated in a 12-step program.

  Sometimes this speaker meeting is the very first recovery meeting they've ever attended.

  And they walk away saying, "This was the missing piece."

  Watching that light bulb go off is incredible.

  The speaker meetings are always outside. You're watching the sun set over a lake while someone shares their story.

  I just got chills thinking about it.

  It's one of the most spiritual experiences.

  We're overlooking the water as the sun goes down. It's stunning. There's really nothing like it.

  Then afterward we go do karaoke and act like kids again.

  The cool thing is there are plenty of adult camps out there, but so many people today feel like they need liquid courage to have fun.

  At Camp Soberfest, people get up on stage and sing their hearts out without alcohol. They're not worried about what anybody thinks.

  For alcoholics and addicts, that's a really big deal.

  Saturday morning follows a similar rhythm, except instead of heading straight into activities, we do the Olympic races.

  Everyone wears team shirts and competes as a team.

  There are all kinds of events—the egg-and-spoon race, beanbag races, spinning around a bat and trying to run straight afterward.

  And then at the very end, to win, teams have to build a six-person human pyramid.

  We've had some pretty gnarly falls. I always hold my breath and pray no one gets hurt.

  But no one is on their phone.

  Everyone is fully present.

  They're laughing, cheering each other on, and enjoying the moment.

  The camaraderie—just all of it.

  And of course it's all happening outside.

  It's magic.

  After lunch we head back into activities.

  At the high ropes course, people are cheering one another on while facing fears they've carried for years.

  Sometimes it's fear of heights. Sometimes it's something deeper.

  I've had YMCA staff come up to me after almost every camp and say, "We've never experienced anything like this."

  They're used to hosting camps and activities all the time.

  But they watch people facing genuine fears while being cheered on by complete strangers.

  It makes them emotional.

  They'll tell me, "This is really special to witness."

  Then Saturday night we always have our talent show, which is one of my favorite parts.

  People prepare acts, perform songs, tell stories, do comedy—whatever they want.

  And for the people who didn't prepare anything but are curious, we encourage them to get up there anyway.

  Just face the fear.

  The magic is on the other side of it.

  For so many people, it becomes a transformational experience.

  And honestly, the more remote the camp location, the better.

  Being out in the middle of nowhere with no cell service—that's my ideal setting.

  Susan:
  Yes. Disconnecting from the tech world is huge, especially when you're in the middle of a transformative experience.

  Just put the phone away.

  Or don't bring it at all.

  Although then nobody would know where to find you.

  Breezy:
  Exactly.

  Susan:
  As I listen to you describe all of this, I'm incredibly grateful for the leadership retreat I've been part of for the last fifteen years. It takes place at a camp facility, although we don't get to do all those fun activities.

  But as you talk, I keep thinking about how many people never get a chance to experience what you're describing.

  To be in a place that is psychologically safe, where you're encouraged to try new things, where you're accepted, where you feel like you belong, and where nature is the backdrop to all of it—that's powerful.

  I'm curious because I know there are people who have never been to camp and don't necessarily feel comfortable outdoors.

  Do most people who sign up already enjoy being outside, or do you get people who are actually overcoming fears related to nature and the outdoors itself?
  
  Breezy:
  Yes.

  One of my camp counselors is actually a great example of that. I'd been trying to get him to come to camp for a while, and he kept saying, "Breezy, I don't do that. I go to a hotel and spend my day at the spa. That's just not something I'd ever be interested in."

  Eventually, I got him and his husband to come.

  He was so surprised.

  He said, "I didn't expect to want to do any of this."

  The fact that he was actually having fun, connecting with people, and disconnecting from the outside world was huge for him.

  It was really cool to watch.

  And then all of a sudden it became, "Okay, maybe I want to be a camp counselor. Maybe I want to help other people get excited about this."

  It was awesome.

  I love watching people who are nervous. They show up with the wrong shoes or they're clearly uncomfortable, but that's also why I choose my camp counselors very carefully.

  They're people with long-term sobriety who know how to talk with people. They have compassion. They're problem solvers.

  They're the kind of people who can say, "Okay, maybe we just walk for five minutes. Let's see how it feels. If you want to turn around after ten minutes, that's totally fine."

  And what's really cool is that after those ten minutes, people usually say, "No, actually I love this. I want to keep going."

  And it's like, "Okay, cool. That's what we thought."

  One of my best friends is a camp counselor and works for a company called Adventure Recovery.

  Susan:
  I know Adventure Recovery.

  Breezy:
  Yeah.

  Susan:
  Did Tim do the fire-building workshop with you? The fire ceremony?

  Breezy:
  He did the fire ceremony in Texas.

  I actually took his training in December.

  My best friend works for him, and she teaches all sorts of outdoor skills—how to make fire and a lot of other things.

  We have a really good group of people who understand the outdoors and understand how it relates to recovery.

  They understand that if you simply allow yourself to have the experience, things can change.

  And really, that's what it comes down to.

  You're allowing yourself to have the experience.

  You're not saying no.

  You're moving through the fear.

  There's so much on the other side of it.

  Susan:
  I love that.

  As I've listened to you today, one theme that keeps coming up for me is helping people connect and helping them feel like they belong in safe spaces—whether that's through the Taste Recovery platform or through camp.

  One of the questions I wanted to ask was this:

  What would you say to someone in recovery who hasn't found their place yet?

  Beyond coming to camp or checking out the Taste Recovery site, what would you say to the person who still feels alone and isn't sure what to do next?

  Breezy:
  There's a great nonprofit organization called The Phoenix.

  I believe their app is now called New Form.

  It's free, and all you need is 24 hours of sobriety.

  You can find pickleball, softball, yoga, mindfulness, meditation, hiking—really just about anything you can imagine.

  It's all there, and it's free.

  It reminds me of when I started feeling isolated and was asking myself, "How do I get out of this?"

  For me, it was joining that Facebook hiking group and going on a hike.

  It was free.

  It got me outside.

  It helped me meet someone.

  I absolutely love what The Phoenix is doing.

  It's such a phenomenal organization.

  People have the opportunity to meet others who enjoy similar things and who can support them.

  Sometimes it's as simple as someone saying, "Those aren't really the right shoes for this hike. Let's help you find what you need and then go together."

  Those are the kinds of people you find through The Phoenix.

  It's really beautiful and special.

  If you're still nervous about doing something like that, then walk into a 12-step meeting.

  They're free too.

  Raise your hand and say, "I'm feeling lonely. Will someone spend time with me?"

  And I guarantee you people will give you their phone numbers.

  People will call you.

  People will invite you to do things.

  We're incredibly lucky to have these resources available to us.

  I think about my friends who aren't in recovery.

  If they move to a new city and they're feeling lonely, they usually have to join some sort of league or club that costs money just to meet people.

  Making friends as an adult is hard.

  It really is hard.

  And so much socializing revolves around drinking.

  In recovery, we have access to tools and communities that make connection easier.

  Unfortunately, a lot of people don't know these resources exist.

  But thankfully Google exists.

  If you type in "sober fun," I think The Phoenix shows up.

  Susan:
  Well, hopefully we'll spread the word a little bit with this podcast too.

  As we're coming toward the end of our conversation, I'm curious about you personally.

  Going all the way back to that question your father asked—what do you love to do?

  Now you've built this.

  How has Camp Soberfest changed you?
  

  Breezy:
  Oh man, it's completely transformed and changed me.

  That boyfriend who was using in my house ended up passing away last year.

  The thought that I started this thing for my own selfish needs—again, not based on resentment this time, but based on a need that I personally had—and the fact that something so tragic happened, yet something so beautiful got to come out of it...

  I like to think about that with him specifically.

  He had no idea how many people he was going to help.

  All of these people are now having these experiences because of what he and I went through.

  If that were the only outcome, it would be worth everything.

  But it's also given me an entirely new family.

  So many new friends.

  So many really cool opportunities that I never would have experienced otherwise.

  I feel like I've come into my own as a leader.

  It's helped me communicate better.

  It's helped me learn how to advocate for others.

  And really, I found my purpose.

  After that very first camp in 2022, I called my dad the next morning.

  I was hysterically crying.

  I said, "This is incredible. I figured it out, Dad. I figured out what I was put here on this earth to do."

  I think there are a lot of people who never get to experience that feeling.

  That has never been lost on me.

  I'm so eternally grateful that I've been able to do this.

  Susan:
  I love that so much.

  Well, I like to end with a little fun lightning round of questions. If you're ready, I'm going to throw some questions your way.

  There's no right or wrong answer. Just whatever comes up for you.

  Breezy:
  Okay.

  Susan:
  First question:

  Which type of outdoor environment is your favorite?

  Breezy:
  I love a national park.

  Susan:
  Okay. Any particular national park at the top of the list?

  Breezy:
  Ooh... Zion.

  Susan:
  Nice. I haven't been yet, but I really want to go. It looks amazing.

  Let's see...

  Favorite mammal? It can't fly and it doesn't have scales.

  Breezy:
  Oh my gosh.

  Horses.

  Susan:
  All right. That makes sense.

  They're incredible.

  Favorite season?

  Breezy:
  Spring.

  Susan:
  Yeah. It's such a hopeful season.

  Favorite time of day to be outside?

  Breezy:
  Sunset.

  Susan:
  Yeah. I'm a sunset girl too.

  All right, last one.

  You have a dandelion in your hand. It's gone to seed, and you're about to make a wish.

  What is your wish for the world?

  Breezy:
  I love that question.

  My wish is that everyone gets to experience their purpose in life.

  Susan:
  Hmm.

  I like that.

  I like that a lot.

  Well, thank you for spending time with me today.

  I'm going to add contact information for you and the resources we've shared.

  Is there anything you want the world to know before we officially wrap today?

  Breezy:
  Come to Camp Soberfest.

  Susan:
  When is the next one? Is it in the fall or summer?

  Breezy:
  It is in the fall.

  August 19th through the 23rd.

  Susan:
  Okay. All right. Awesome.

  We'll put the information in the show notes.

  Breezy:
  Yay. Thank you.

  Susan:
  Thank you.